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Chuck Chapman
Happy seeds, all ready to go in ground. 100% with emerging root.
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20 May at 18:42
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Steve Kelly
so obviously you didn't plant them in soil to germinate....what method do you use?
20 May at 18:48
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Massimiliano Grassi
Can you please share with us this method? My seeds have no roots ...
20 May at 18:50
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Chuck Chapman
They were soaked and rinsed daily for close to two weeks. Five days wold have been enough, but I got distracted and didn't have time for next stage. They were placed in a pantyhose legging, with each pod tied off with an id number with seeds. Then stocking was placed in a shoe box packed with soaked peat moss. Peat moss was squeezed tightly before going into shoe box. Then in fridge at 4C (40F) for just over two months. I suspect a much shorter time would also work.
20 May at 19:22
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Steve Kelly
Thanks for sharing
And you must have more room in your refrigerator than I do!!!! LOL
20 May at 19:25
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Chuck Chapman
About 300 pods in one plastic "shoebox" I do have my own seed fridge though as that isn't the only seeds in it. Got kicked out of family fridge a few years ago.
20 May at 19:38
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Debra Vassar-Hufnagel
LOLOL! We've two refrigerators. Bottom drawer of one is getting marked 'Non-edibles'. We keep medication for critters and vitamins in that drawer, as well as made up plant food and hormones.
20 May at 20:58
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Debra Vassar-Hufnagel
Said shoebox is closed, yes? Would a B vit. application be good at time of planting? Any other treatment of soil/seedlings at planting or as plantlets emerge such as an antifungal/bacterial? What's your emergence and survival rate?
20 May at 21:27
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Debra Vassar-Hufnagel
Is there a preferable seedling growth temperature window?
20 May at 21:28
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Chuck Chapman
During stratification process seeds are metabolically active. They need air plus moisture. Peat moss provides this. Closed shoe box to keep moist. No extra treatment. Seeds will germinate right in fridge. But slow growth. I haven't experimented with growth temperatures. But my understanding is that optimum probably is around 20C or 70F. when placed directly into planting trays, germination is about 95%. As I'm planting this way, I note some pods have a number of rotted seeds. But don't think this has anything to do with method, suspect it has more to do with those pods that broke off early. No reatments when planted in soil, other then keeping wet.
20 May at 22:03
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Massimiliano Grassi
Really thanks Chuck... I will try with an entire seed pod...
21 May at 03:09
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Elizabeth van Oranje
ik ga ook proberen mijn irissen te zaaien!
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21 May at 03:14
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Debra Vassar-Hufnagel
Thank you… very helpful!
21 May at 09:15
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Terry L Toney
1. When you removing your seed pods are you doing it when they are still green or when they are showing signs of drying out? 2. When you where soaking and rinsing. Did you have them in the fridge at this time? 3. When they where in the peat moss, where you adding moisture to them in the 2 months? I was taught a lil diffrent, thats why I am asking questions. Thanks
21 May at 09:46
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Chuck Chapman
1-Harvest when pods start to turn brown 2- soaking and rinsing at room temperature. Stratification starts after this. 3- soak peat moss then a hard squeeze, then layered with seeds in shoebox . No need to add water after this.
21 May at 09:49
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Terry L Toney
Can you do this any time of the yr? I was taught to do it in the fall.
21 May at 10:14
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Chuck Chapman
Seeds need about 30-60 days of stratification before planting. I was timing it this year so I could put seeds directly in garden. Less work then growing under lights and then transplanting. Your timing is up to you and what you do with seeds. That is put in flats and under lights. but definitely after 70 days, seeds are raring to go.
21 May at 10:22
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Adam N' Autumn
Chuck
, I've had such success with this method! Mine were in the 'fridge 2/25/13 to 5/6 -- 10 weeks. SDB's were just showing germination tips. Now, 2 wks in pots, the SDB's are poking out of the soil surface. TB's won't be too far behind! Have you tried this method with beardless iris seeds?? Adam~
21 May at 10:22
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Chuck Chapman
Yes. Beardless don't start germination in fridge. But pop up as soon as in soil.
21 May at 10:24
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Terry L Toney
Or temps here in Central Calif are running 80's a to 90's, buy the time I get to set seed out in pots or in the ground it's going to be 90's - 100's.
21 May at 10:25
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Chuck Chapman
Choose your timing to correspond with your setup. Work backward from when you want seeds to germinate, to know when to start stratification. Then work backwards to add time for soak and rinse.
21 May at 10:28
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Chuck Chapman
Seed treatment information for all those interested in planting seeds.
1 July at 16:08
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Robert Piątek
Chuck, what soak the seeds?
1 July at 16:21
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Chuck Chapman
Water
1 July at 17:12
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Colleen Modra
When I have seeds like this I feel like I hold incredible wealth and joy in my hands. Right now I planting out my seedlings and at the stage of "Did I need this many to germinate, where the heck am I going to find room to plant them all." Hopefully I'll be back to the wealth and joy stage when I see them flower.
2 July at 03:51
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Linda Mann
I'm just at the harvesting stage, and am looking at the good seeds with a great deal of resentment and very little excitement. It's so humid (and raining again) and hot, and my feet hurt
Are we having fun yet?
2 July at 05:47
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Sarah Townsend Northam
oh the possibilities!
2 July at 07:04
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Betty Ward Wilkerson
I'm quite happy to plant outside when the soil cools and let mother nature do the rest. Would probably do different if I had a greenhouse again.
2 July at 07:19
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Chuck Chapman
Fall rains can provide the rinse cycle, as long as it is reliable and heavy enough. If you get it, then planting in fall and having seeds outside works. For me the rain is not reliable. The controlled inside cycle gives me a higher germination rate,and at a controlled time.
2 July at 07:26
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Betty Ward Wilkerson
Chuck, I understand. When I can do it just right, with a trench and leaves, I can get near 100% germination too. Just doesn't usually happen here.
2 July at 07:39
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Mitch Jameson
going to try in ground, lots of water prior to freezing, winter under a board, lift off early spring keep watering.
2 July at 08:06
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Mitch Jameson
why a board? Mulch would provide protection without preventing water reaching seeds.
2 July at 08:24
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Betty Ward Wilkerson
I could plant a select few in the ground this year. Got a feeling I'm not going to worry a lot about left over seed! If so, I'll know the cross anyway. Linda, why resentment? Chuck, did you read my blog yesterday?
2 July at 08:48
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Linda Mann
Betty, I just am tired, & resentful of the work I know will be involved in planting and tending them, plus I figure there's a good chance that I won't get either rebloom <or> decent form from most of these, maybe not from any.
2 July at 10:24
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Dennis Kramb
my reaction to the original photo.... "Radicle!!!"
2 July at 10:31
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Lucy Burton
We cover seed pots with wire & add the Christmas tree branches for a late natural 'mulch'.
2 July at 13:49
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Sandy Reed
Dumb question - When you are doing the soaking and rinsing have you removed the seeds from the pods or leave them in and soak the entire pod?
2 July at 14:05
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Chuck Chapman
I'm doing it with dried seeds. Timing according to earlier post, to aim for when you wish seeds to germinate.
2 July at 14:07
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Sandy Reed
Thank you
Chuck Chapman
2 July at 14:42
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24 August at 21:34
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Sandra Eggertson
I applaud those who can do that! I have heard of the panti hose method for some time, but I just don't have the wherewithall /time to do that. Mind you my seeds s are mostly bee pods, so, they go directly into the ground (marked of course!) end of September. Actually I have the best germination doing it like this year, I have collected ripe seeds from Little Bay De Noc; I. var. reginae; Solar Flight; Lots of others that are promising.
25 August at 09:09
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Cathleena Beams
Hopefully I will have an opportunity to do this again next year now that I have a yard to play in again.
24 August at 22:16
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Betty Ward Wilkerson
I'm reminded that I need to fill pots so they can settle before planting time! Sigh! Sounds like more work.
25 August at 07:54
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Maggie Asplet
Excellent discussion, thank you Chuck and others who have contributed, very interesting
25 August at 15:40
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